TOWN OF SOMERS

CONSERVATION COMMISSION

P.O. BOX 308

SOMERS, CONNECTICUT 06071

 

CONSERVATION MINUTES

REGULAR MEETING

Wednesday, January 5, 2005

7:00 p.m.

 

I.  CALL TO ORDER

 

Chairman Joan Formeister called the regular meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.  Members Joan Formeister, Dan Fraro, Todd Whitford and Lise Wood were present and constituted a quorum.  Also in attendance:  David Askew, Wetlands Agent.

 

II. OLD BUSINESS

 

There was no old business.

 

III.  NEW BUSINESS

 

A motion was made by Lise Wood, seconded by Dan Fraro and unanimously approved to amend the agenda by adding the election of officers as a New Business Item.

 

a. Wetlands Application #513, 8-Lot Subdivision in Upland Review Area, Stafford Road and Rocky Dundee Road, GCS Land Development Corp.

 

George Schoerber of GCS Land Development Corp., and Mike Tarbell of Tarbell, Heintz and Associates, presented the plans for an 8-lot subdivision consisting of 3 lots on Stafford Road and 5 lots on Rocky Dundee Road.  The wetlands were marked on the plan and shown to be outlined by trees. 

 

The soil tests had been reviewed by Steve Jacobs and the applicant had addressed each of his concerns.

 

An easement was recommended along the roadway in order to provide a buffer zone. 

 

Mr. Askew asked if Mr. Strauss recommended anything with regard to drainage.  Mr. Tarbell stated that in fact he had and the foundation drains were to be moved to the front of the lots on Stafford Road.  There is an existing swale and Mr. Strauss met with the Public Works Department and would like a culvert to run under the driveways on Stafford Road.

 

Dave Askew stated that he did not have many wetland issues regarding the application, as the applicant has managed to keep fairly far away from them.  He did request that wetland boundaries be permanently delineated in the field with posts and identification markers.

 

Open space was discussed briefly, even though the applicant was informed that this was an issue to be presented with the Planning Commission.  Mr. Tarbell showed the proposed area to be offered in lieu of fee, which consisted of approximately 7.7 acres of the total 28 acres composing the site

 

Mr. Tarbell added that the Planning Commission wants to keep the view on Stafford Road open so that Greystone Farm would be more accessible visibly.  Because of this, one of the house locations has been moved 60 feet and may be moved an additional 15 feet.  The house has been set back and the septic moved to the front in order to open up the view. 

 

Joan Formeister asked about the corner lot on Stafford Road and noted that everything appeared to drain towards that.  She expressed concern that the future owner of the property may have a problem with the drainage.  The applicant stated that he didn’t anticipate any problems.  Todd Whitford suggested that drainage easements be obtained and be stipulated on the property deeds and on the plans.  The applicant stated that he would explore the issue further.  The Commission had no other concerns.

 

b.  Wetlands Application #514, Grading for Residential Reconstruction in Upland Review Area, 99 Four Bridges Road, Gazis

 

Lasse Aspelin, architect for the applicant, presented the plans for the proposed reconstruction of the home situated at 99 Four Bridges Road.  The current structure is condemned.  When the applicant purchased the property, it was anticipated that the home would be repaired, but this has proven impossible to do.  Instead, the applicant would like to tear down the current structure and replace it with a 2-story house in the footprint of the current residence.  There is currently an old shed on the property that will be removed and not be replaced. 

 

Mr. Aspelin has a letter from the soil scientist regarding the location of wetlands, which are shown on the plans.  The septic system meets current sanitary codes.  With regard to the flood plane elevations, the applicant has received a letter from FEMA stating that the structure will be above the required height.

 

Mr. Aspelin stated that the new home would have no basement.

 

Mr. Askew stated that this Commission, as well as the other Commissions, is under no obligation to approve this application regardless of its history and current status.  He suggested that if and when a motion was made to approve this application, it should be made clear in the record that the approval is based on an “as is” condition for reconstruction of an existing structure and that future proposals must be evaluated in a manner consistent with prevailing regulation.

 

Mr. Aspelin asked if the owner wanted to put up an impermeable surface (ie. patio) on the back of the house so that a muddy surface could be avoided, would this be permissible.  Mr. Askew stated that it may be possible but that it is important to include every item fully on the plans presented before the Commission for approval.

 

Mrs. Formeister recommended that the wetland area be permanently delineated on the site for the benefit of future potential owners of the property.

 

c.  Determination of Permitted Use of Right for Logging Activity Within Wetland and Temporary Stream Crossing, 666 Main Street (Lloyd/Guilbert Property), Quirk

 

Applicant Joe Quirk stated that Dave Askew had been working with him on this and Mr. Askew presented a map of the site.  Mr. Askew explained that he had walked the property and it consisted of a house with a barn and a steep slope down to a stream.  Currently there is land that is being used as pasture.  The property owner wants to remove some of the trees in the flood plain area in exchange for logging on the remaining property. There is a need to create 2 crossings over 2 streams and some trees may need to be removed in order to get access to the higher logging areas.  As far as logging goes, Mr. Quirk stated that he is only interested in the high ground areas as that is where the desirable species of trees are located.  He may remove a few trees from the wetland, provided he can cable them out of the wetland. 

 

Mr. Askew stated that it appears that this meets the requirements for Permitted Use of Right.  He added that it was his understanding that no trees were to be removed within 25 feet of the brook because it is a trout brook and that all slash is to be removed out of the flood plain.  Mr. Quirk stated that no trees would be removed with 25 feet of the brook and he would remove the slash by adding his to the piles that already exist on the property and by burning them. 

 

Mr. Askew also asked that the stream crossings be removed once the work is finished so that there is no interruption to the flow of the stream.

 

The Commission concurred that the plan as presented met the criteria of the Permitted Use of Right.

 

d.  Election of Officers

 

A motion was made by Lise Wood, seconded by Dan Fraro and unanimously approved to keep Joan Formeister as the Chairman of the Conservation Commission.

 

A motion was made by Lise Wood, seconded by Dan Fraro and unanimously approved to keep Karl Walton as the Vice Chairman of the Conservation Commission.

 

A motion was made by Dan Fraro, seconded by Todd Whitford and unanimously approved to keep Lise Wood as Secretary of the Conservation Commission.

 

e.  Other

 

There was no other New Business.

 

IV.  AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION

 

There was no audience participation.

 

V,  STAFF/COMMISSIONER REPORTS

 

Wetland Agent David Askew presented his report to the Commission for their review and comments, briefly discussing each item.  A motion was made by Lise Wood, seconded by Dan Fraro and unanimously approved to accept the report as written.

 

VI. CORRESPONDENCE AND BILLS

 

The following bills were presented due the Journal Inquirer:  $55.09, $47.22 (11/11/04),

$47.22 (11/19/04), and a bill due the Wetland and Erosion Control Agent:  $4,750.00.

 

A motion was made by Lise Wood, seconded by Dan Fraro and unanimously approved to pay the bills.

 

Mr. Askew received notification of a seminar on January 22, 2005 entitled “Integrating Biodiversity with Local Land Use” as well as notice of a workshop entitled “Connecticut Land Use Law for Municipal Land Use Agencies Boards and Commissions” to be held on March 5, 2005.

 

 

VII.  MINUTES APPROVAL

 

A motion was made by Lise Wood, seconded by Dan Fraro and unanimously voted to approve the minutes of the November 3, 2004 meeting as written.  A motion was made by Lise Wood, seconded by Dan Fraro and unanimously voted to approve the minutes of the November 17, 2004 special meeting as written.

 

VIII. ADJOURNMENT

                                                           

A motion was made by Lise Wood, seconded by Todd Whitford and unanimously approved to adjourn the meeting at 8:09 p.m.

 

                                                                        Respectfully submitted,

 

                                                                       

                                                                        Lise Wood, Secretary

                                                                       

            Robin Timmons, Recording Secretary

 

MINUTES ARE NOT OFFICIAL UNTIL APPROVAL AT A SUBSEQUENT MEETING.